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Indonesia's religious tolerance down: Study
December 19, 2008 Friday, 05:26 AM

JAKARTA: Religious tolerance has had a bleak year in Indonesia, according to a new study by a think-tank linked to the country's largest Islamic organisation Nahdlatul Ulama.
myshifuisconfucius
December 19, 2008 Friday, 02:01 PM

Will soon reach our shores...
NELNELNEL
December 19, 2008 Friday, 02:40 PM

If only many know how to express the 3 letter words publicly:

I am sorry

or

We are sorry.

Sadly, many don't only believing that their prayers are enough.

I wonder do they ever include these 3 letter words in their prayers daily, night and day.

What are in their prayers?
nugroho3
December 19, 2008 Friday, 08:44 PM

I am an Indonesian. I don't think this will reach Singapore shores unless Singapore is more stupid than most of the non-muslim Indonesian, who originally owned almost half of the Indonesian archipelago, who sit still until they are persecuted in their own land, who will not unite and do something to oppose the apparent and obvious trend.
Jousterr
December 20, 2008 Saturday, 02:34 PM

A recent Oprah episode on Hallmark Channel featured Dr Brian Weiss - who was head of Psychiatry in a Miami institute - and his epiphany when treating a patient using hypnotherapy. The patient was a Caucasian Catholic woman from New England. When asked to regress herself to her childhood, she over-regressed into her many past lives!

In-between her past lives - while hypnotised - she explained to Dr Weiss that his deceased infant had died for a reason : to teach him and his family about death and dying. She also mentioned that his living daughter, Ephraim, was named after Dr Weiss' deceased Jewish father. This stunned him as details of his family weren't publicised!

Despite being an adamant left-brained sceptic/scientist with his reputation risked in a conservative industry, he persisted and became a leading past-life regression hypnotherapist who helped many to overcome depression, guilt, etc - after discovering their past life effects on their psyche that impacted relationships and successful living. He published his seminal/top-selling book, Many Lives, Many Masters, in 1988.

On the show, Dr Weiss regressed a funeral director who commentated - with much trauma - a past death when in air combat, stemming from his inability to shoot enemy planes as he couldn't tell 'who from who' : presumably friendly from enemy aircraft, perhaps at night. Another life had him witness, helplessly and with much guilt/sorrow, a stranger being raped by a man.

He learnt that that stranger is his sister in this life! Knowing this helped improve their otherwise rocky relationship. Her presence as his sister had probably heightened his guilt from that past-life incident - which had antagonised their relating.

This dovetails with Dr Weiss' regression research on his patients : that soul groups (not musicians) do reincarnate in different roles to iron out their debts and obligations - ALREADY BELIEVED IN SOME ASIAN CULTURES. It seems that multiple rebirths are needed for an eternal soul to experience different perspectives religiously, genderly or racially.

Dr Weiss' data indicates that most reincarnate no more than 100 lives versus up to thousands as suggested in Buddhism. And that those dying young or violently reincarnate quicker than those dying calmly in old age - up to a century's interval between rebirths! Besides hypnotism, some recall past-life memories spontaneously - deja vu for instance - as well as via medication. Some need several sessions of hypnotism to recall while 20% can do so during their very first session.

He also found that reincarnation was widely believed in many faiths universally until present-day conventions forbade its teaching. For instance, Christian fathers opposed belief in rebirth that could blunt the carrot/stick of heaven/hell to keep the flock on the straight and narrow.

Resultantly, he is less materialistic and feels family-oriented - not just with those related. He believes we reincarnate to learn/teach our oneness/connectedness as eternal souls - needing to first unlearn the divisiveness of self/immediate family centredness.

One revealing interview with him is at : http://www.lifepositive.com/Mind/per...wth/past-life/

Note : Unlike disinformation, those hypnotised are FULLY CONSCIOUS & IN CONTROL wilfully allowing the hypnotist/therapist to relax them to focus their recall. Medication and concepts like reincarnation, etc AREN'T HINDU, BUDDHIST OR RELIGIOUS beliefs - having predated these religions since pre-history. Personally, I have yet to read of communication from 'the other side' that mentions a particular religion or icon (Jesus, Buddha, etc) as 'the right one' - let alone corroborate religious relevance/necessity when we die.
Jousterr
December 20, 2008 Saturday, 02:40 PM

Sorry for twice misspelling 'meditation' as 'medication' - a slip on the keyboard is no fault of the mind?
NELNELNEL
December 20, 2008 Saturday, 07:52 PM

"For instance, Christian fathers opposed belief in rebirth that could blunt the carrot/stick of heaven/hell to keep the flock on the straight and narrow."

Each and everyone of us has 51 billion ancestors in 35 generations [or about 1000 years not to say 5000 years or 50000 years or more as the number is too huge to be added up by any super computer].

Reincarnation?

No reincaration [recycle of old souls] then ask the experts how many souls will there be now piling up in the spiritual world?

No reincarnation, then all only new souls on earth, leaving all the old souls piling in huge numbers in spiritual world.. It will be jammed pack with old souls.

Then how Jesus died for our sins [future sins] when old souls do not return to this physical world? Only new souls are allowed to be on earth, then how and where and when did the new souls committed the sins for Jesus to die for each and every soul? Is this human convoluted logic? Think harder with logic.

Will science and modern technological's progress be possible with only new souls [no old sousl able to return to this physical world]?

New souls come with emptiness in ability [some souls are born able to do advanced maths at age 4 while some new souls cannot even learn easily the ABC at a young age]. Think using logic on this when children are born with different abilities. Think.

Why there are some humans born more superior than others [the bums? who are they, new souls?] in developing high tech and new inventions [old souls? vs new souls? who has the ability to do that? Think. ].

Can new souls have different and better abilites compared with other new souls [only new souls on earth?] when there in no reincaration to bring back old souls into this physical world?

Without old souls [reincarnation], there is no way progress in science and technology can advance on earth? It will be slow progress, very slow.
JayFLee0
December 20, 2008 Saturday, 08:28 PM

1)Unless the 50.999 billion ancestors are germs and viruses, you failed your mathematics. Learn to count before coming back here.

2)You also assume that souls actually take up physical space and are the size of an average human. Have you seen, weighed or measured the size of an average soul and did a mapping of the spirit world? If not, you made baseless assumptions again.

3) When the sins are committed? If Jesus is the Incarnate God who is beyond space and time, why does the when and where of the commited sin even matter? I'd ask you to think, but I'm afraid you might sprain something.

4) Yes. There's something called research and documentation. You don't have to once been Einstein to know his theories and works. You just have to be able to read and understand his writings.

5) Progidy as a proof of reincarnation? Comparing the number of ancient geniuses, taking into account the number of reincarnations they should have gone through, surely there'd be lots more progidy? Accumulative knowledge should result in a larger number of geniuses, but till today this hasn't happened.

6) Your own calculations answers yes new souls can indeed have far superior physical and mental abilities compared to other souls with the same "lineage".

7) Except that science and technology exploded only in the last two hundred years when people actually started systematically writing down previous experiences and methods were developed to help accelarate research, Seems you didn't learn too much during your sabbatical.
NELNELNEL
December 21, 2008 Sunday, 12:05 AM

Well rebutted.

We are on different wavelengths.
Jousterr
December 21, 2008 Sunday, 12:48 PM

FLee 08:28 ~ 'Prodigy' or 'progidy'?
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