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Focus on the Family: Why support for group may not be advisable
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 06:01 AM

I WRITE in response to the online letters by Mr George Lim.
theinlim
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 07:56 AM

Only basing on US HQ website and made a personal judgement already? While Mr Chew thought he was rightfully to speak out, where is the evidence of Singapore FOF carried out the exact mission as in the US or under their directives?

I think Mr Chew just jumped to his own conclusion and misled those who follow him, without finding and proving evidences.
justspeaking
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 08:32 AM

Think those that has been personally affected by the "aggressive evangelical" efforts should speak up.
Think we have to judge the singapore based org in its own rights, rather than blame the sins of the father on the child.
lobo_respawned
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 08:48 AM

theinlim,

Strange, I thought it was normal practice? [looks at the 377A threads]
0517elias
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 09:36 AM

Hmm.. what an insidious organisation indeed!

http://www.family.org.sg/aboutus.html :
"To date, we have an estimate reach of some 900,000 constituents and our mass media messages are reinforced during the year with more than 400 family events, seminars, workshops and talks, plus distribution of approximately 41,000 books, magazines, VCDs, CDs and booklets thru family service centres, schools, libraries, bookstores and churches."

and churches!.. how about the other places of worship??

And furthermore accusing Mr Chew of not having evidence of Singapore FOF carrying out evangelistic activities is also wrong because there is also no evidence to prove the contrary.
unewolke
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 09:49 AM

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Focus on the Family is not merely any value-neutral, secular, pro-family organisation
what is a "value-neutral" organization? any examples? the term itself is an oxymoron, esp when associated with "secular" and "pro-family".

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This is an organisation to whom 'family' does not denote any sort of family, but a specifically Christian concept of family.
instead of getting all uptight over a religious group's pro-family stance, why not ask if the group's pro-family stance is antithetical to any other major religion's or secular pro-family stance/practices in sg? if not, what's the hooha? just bec it's christian?

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Any religious group that has as its explicit agenda the spread and imposition of its religious values on our secular society is a threat to our delicate social fabric and should not receive public support.
christianity is a proselytic religion and is not outlawed in sg. just bec it's a proselytic religion doesn't mean it also teaches its adherents to "impose" their faith on others. at any rate, they can't.

i won't call sg a "secular" society when the majority profess some religion or other, however religious they may or may not be.

and i'm really amused to read time and again that just bec the writer disagrees with christianity, s/he is likely to get paranoid and wantonly quote the "delicate social fabric" in sg. how delicate? i don't see christian fanatics up in arms with machine guns against others with a different religion or practice just bec someone criticizes their religion or the founder of their religion.
unewolke
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 09:51 AM

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Hmm.. what an insidious organisation indeed!
How "insidious" when it actually broadcasts the same for all to see?!
AlChristian
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 10:22 AM

I suspect (Emphasis: just a suspicion without proof) some decision-maker in DBS could be a Focus On Family member. The Focus on Family was most probably recommended by him/her, when DBS wanted to do some charity work.

The Focus on Family group is a rightwing controversial US Christian hate group. It has many Christian nutcases in there. If the gays have their LGBT agenda, then the Focus On Family has it's hate agenda - anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-Obama etc. It's hate for gays is most prominent, as it would spend millions of dollars on activities against a group of people (ie. the gays), even if this spending has affected its finances, resulting to layoffs in the Focus on Family. Apparently, to FOF, I guess laying off its workers so that they lose a source of income to support their families is very 'pro-family'.


http://coloradoindependent.com/15287...uncing-layoffs
gusiykuku
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 10:22 AM

Jesus advocates pro-family? Read the followings and think again.

He said to another man: “Follow me”, but that man replied: “Lord, first let me go and bury my father”. Jesus said to him: “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of god”. Still another said: “I will follow you, Lord; but first let me go back and say goodbye to my family”. Jesus replied: “No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of god”. - LUK 9:59-62 NIV

“Large crowds were travelling with Jesus and turning to them he said: “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters – yes, his own life – he cannot be my disciple.” - LUK 14:25-26 NIV

Those who want more please click the link - http://evangelicalatheist.com/2006/0...on-the-family/
Thirumoorthy.T
December 11, 2008 Thursday, 10:33 AM

Dear Mr Matthias Chew (assuming you are male),

You wrote, “This is an organisation to whom 'family' does not denote any sort of family, but a specifically Christian concept of family,” and insinuated (or rather, overtly claimed) that Focus on the Family “has as its explicit agenda the spread and imposition of its religious values on our secular society …”

I do sympathize with your sensitivities. So would you kindly clarify with the readers as to:

1) What is the “Christian” concept of the family? How would you agree/disagree with this “Christian” concept? And in what way is this “Christian” concept different from the average, run-of-the-mill Singaporean family concept?
2) What is the “secular” concept of the family?
3) What are the Buddhist, Taoist, Confucian and Muslim concepts of the family? Are these concepts different in its family constituent or makeup?
4) What would be your suggested “family concept” for Singaporeans to adhere to?

I keenly await your reply for the benefit of our society, and for the protection of our families from “insidious” religious conversions and corruption by “Christian” family concepts.
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