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Haven of courtesy: Singapore compared to China
November 25, 2008 Tuesday, 10:24 AM

I AM so happy to be back in Singapore after nine days of a horror trip to Shanghai and other cities in China.

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christmas14
November 25, 2008 Tuesday, 12:35 PM

Beg To Differ I Love The Chinese People So Kind And Wonderful Experience During My Many Trips They Love Me For What I Am - Although I Am Non Chinese Never Encountered Any Racism Never Never I Am So Happy Looking Fwd To My Next Trip
JuzAThought
November 25, 2008 Tuesday, 02:10 PM

Sad to say that I even had a bad experience with Chinese tourists in Sentosa when young. The adults pushed me aside to get into the monorail and I witnessed them spitting out of the window while viewing the scenery..Guess that’s why the new vision of monorails have no open windows! Maybe it was just an isolated incident. I agree that majority of Singaporeans are courteous and Im proud to be one.
HappyChina
November 25, 2008 Tuesday, 08:19 PM

I agree with christmas14.
My experience of China and the Chinese people is NOTHING but happy memories and I can't wait to go back as soon as possible.

Isn’t there enough negative news about China already? Why don't more people post their positive experiences? I have encountered MANY people who love China and the Chinese people but I hear very little positive stories. Even during China’s great efforts of the Olympics I heard nothing but criticism towards the Chinese here in the west!

WHY DO YOU FEEL SUCH A NEED TO POST THIS ARTICLE??? GIVE CHINA A BREAK FOR A CHANGE!
OrdinaryPeople
November 25, 2008 Tuesday, 08:42 PM

Just came back from a China trip and the people there are polite and courteous even though some may speak loudly.
That kind of horror as described are experienced more in Singapore and coming from Singaporeans. And many of the public toilets in Singapore are far from ideal. There are pee all over most toilet seat covers and the floors are wet from flicking hands. Most do not even bother to wash their hands or even if they do, simply go through the motion. The soap dispensers are hardly being used. The writer is obviously blind to what is happening in Singapore.
NAGuan71
November 25, 2008 Tuesday, 08:51 PM

Singapore's service industry always blame bad customers for their bad services, which to me is hardly any excuse for poor service. Same thing here, perhaps you should look into your attitude first.

Chinese people I met in China are more codial than SG.
AlChristian
November 25, 2008 Tuesday, 09:11 PM

Shanghai is actually not that bad compared to many other places, although I once saw a Chinese woman trying to let his young kid urinate at a corner of Mei Luo Cheng( metro, somewhere in Xujiahui, Puxi). What's worse? There wasn't even a drain at that corner, and many people were passing by.

Fortunately, a Chinese policeman (or was it the Shopping mall's guard?) then came over and told her not to do that. Later, some people there told me that she was a wai sheng ren (translated literally: a person from another province), not a native of Shanghai.

And, whatever you do, try not to go to the Shanghai train station. That place can be really dirty.

Their Mrt is ok, and their 'magnetic train' to Pudong International Airport is good. But, try to avoid the railway station, if you can.
Misnomer
November 26, 2008 Wednesday, 12:02 AM

Sometimes we are too hard on ourselves, expect too much of our own people. The discriminating and the slamming of our own kind, seems to be a culture passed down from some gods.
Eagle2004
November 26, 2008 Wednesday, 09:20 AM

Misnomer #8

{The discriminating and the slamming of our own kind, seems to be a culture passed down from some gods}

Unfortunately, most of us remember the unpleasant incidents which happen once in awhile. Many of us then take such anecdotes & hold them up as examples of the Ugly S'porean at work.

I was at the S'pore Zoo a couple of days ago with my children queuing up for the tram. As we were awaiting our turn to board, a bespectacled woman with a child in tow (not in the queue) seemed frustrated as she looked for vacant seats. She barged ahead of the queue & claimed that the family in front of me was in the 'wrong queue'. I was flabbergasted, & about to tell her off for attempting to cut into our queue, but the gentleman in front of me (whom she accussed), beat me to it. He simply, but firmly, told her if she was so desperate to make it onboard that tram with her child, she was most welcome to board ahead of those of us who were queuing. However, she was firmly told that it was she who was cutting the queue, but he proclaimed loudly that he forgave her. That woman was seething from the embarrassment, but was thick-skinned enough to still take the last 2 vacant seats on that particular tram. The next tram arrived 3 minutes later, so I cannot fathom why that woman was desperate enough to make a fool of herself just to clamber onboard the earlier tram.

However, let's be fair to all S'poreans & not hold her up as an example of a discourteous local. I dare say that she is the exception rather than the norm.
Really100
November 26, 2008 Wednesday, 10:13 AM

You see what you want to see.....Ms Tay most probably didn't enjoy the trip because she had to take care of her 80 year-old mum. As she was negative about the experience, she took in everything that made her trip a bad one, including the rudeness of the people and rough treatment. Even a polite look of gratitute from the man who dropped his belongings was interpreted as a rude stare. Upon her return to Singapore, she felt a sense of relief and thought everything was so wonderful, including the rude stare from the immigration was interpreted as a smile.
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